Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:09 am

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:17 am

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Flik: Hey, wait, we're...
Muteiu: We're your allies!
Shin: Shut your mouth! I do not know who you are, so I cannot consider you an ally. I'm sorry, but I can't let you leave here alive.
Flik: You refuse to listen to us?! Are you after a fight? You'll find us very different from those Highland soldiers...
Shin: With my blade, Tarantula, in hand, I have nothing to fear... from anyone.
Flik: If we're talking about reasons not to lose, we have 'em too, buddy!

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Stop it, you two, you're scaring the children.

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Shin: My lady... but these people...
Teresa: There... there has been enough fighting... I beg you, Shin... please stop.
Flik: Wait a minute. We haven't come to capture you. I'm Flik of the KISS Army. This is our leader, Muteiu.
Teresa: The KISS Army...

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Flik: Why? Our army's military strength is still fairly slight. Even with the aid of Two Rier, we aren't in a position to wage war against Highland's main army. So, lady Teresa, we need your strength.
Teresa: My strength? No, what you seek is Greenhill's strength... Forgive me, Lord Muteiu. I'm afraid I cannot help you. I abandoned my citizens, and escaped here alone... I am no longer acting mayor of Greenhill. And I... don't want... anything like that battle to ever...

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:23 am

Teresa: It became obvious that Highland was after Greenhill, and so the citizens were preparing for a fight.

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Teresa: Highland released the captured Muse soldiers, and they came to Greenhill. At first, everyone rejoiced, without knowing the true meaning of the soldiers' arrival...

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Teresa: There were skeptics, but most of the citizens assumed there must have been some Highland commander or other that wanted a fair fight. More than anything, the increase in military power due to the Muse soldiers was invaluable to the morale of the dejected citizens. Before long, the Highland Army appeared, and the citizens prepared for battle. However...

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Teresa: It seems obvious now that Highland must have given the Muse soldiers back their weapons for just this purpose. Right in front of the Highland Army, we... were defeated without even having fought.

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Teresa: All that remained in us was distrust for each other... And... I, as acting mayor of Greenhill, could not prevent this... Forgive me... Lord Muteiu... I can't help you... Please, please... Return home...

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:25 am

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Never before have two simple words been filled with such palpable disappointment.

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Not since yesterday have two simple words been filled with such palpable disappointment.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:32 am

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Rowd: 20,000 potch and the right of Highland citizenship will be awarded to whomever captures Teresa, former acting mayor!!
Greenhill citizenry: Liar!! That's right!! How can we trust a nation that's already broken their promises!? Yeah!! Yeah!!
Flik: A cash reward and immunity... It's only a matter of time before someone comes forward...

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Nanami's so surprised by the offscreen revelation that she leaps six feet into the air.

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Jowy: The parties responsible for yesterday's unlawful investigation are already being punished.
Rowd: . . . . .
Jowy: This is a formal offer from Prince Luca Blight of Highland. I swear on my own life that our promises will be kept.
Greenhill citizenry: ...Is it really...??
Jowy: There is, however, one condition. Teresa must be delivered alive... No reward will be given for a corpse.
Greenhill citizenry: 2... 20,000 potch...

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I know, right? MAJOR PLOT TWIST except for the cutscene where we saw Jowy asking for 5,000 troops and promising Greenhill in return. Holy shit Japan are you allergic to suspense or something?

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Anyway, Pilika doesn't care about all this political crap. She just sees Jowy and runs off to him.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:35 am

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The party grabs Pilika and flees, while Fitcher's timely interjection whips the crowd into a confused riot to slow down the Highland pursuit.

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Seed: You're sure we shouldn't follow, commander?
Jowy: Rowd will take care of it. We'll leave it to him.
Seed: Naturally...
Culgan: Teresa... No matter what you say, we won't give her up.
Jowy: ...I suppose so...

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:39 am

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We're attacked by disposable Highland soldiers a couple of times on the way back to the Academy.

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They follow us through the woods, too.

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Bolgan: Nanami okay?
Nanami: Wh... Why... Why would... Jowy...
Flik: The commander that 'knew what time it is' Fitcher was talking about... it must have been Jowy. But... It's hard to believe... A commander in the Highland Army...
Pilika: . . . . .
Muteiu: Um... is it? Is it really that hard to believe? I'm commanding the united State army, and he has the advantage of actually being from Highland. It doesn't seem so farfetched if you look at it that way. Hell, he probably has his own Stone Tablet of Promise to fill out... I don't really know how this kind of thing works.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:50 am

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Nina: Oh my!! Sir Flik, whatever are you doing here? Goodness... Have you been following me...?
Flik: What... How do you know this place!?
Shin: Nina has been helping me. Whenever I needed supplies, she would buy them... I fear I would have stood out too much.

That's right, we had Shin pegged from the get-go, but Nina was the best contact we had to find Teresa all along... and Flik was avoiding her.

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...best spies ever.

Nina: Flik, what are you doing here?
Flik: We've come to get you, Lady Teresa, and escape. The situation has changed. This time, if we must, we will use force...
Teresa: Nina has already informed me of what is happening.
Nanami: Then, then, then, let's get out of here. If we stay here we'll be found in no time...
Teresa: No... I will not run. I will be the cause of no more suffering for my people. Once they have captured me, Highland's oppression of Greenhill will end... I have no other options.
Nina: B... But... Wait a minute...
Teresa: Lord Muteiu, excuse me. I am... sorry that I could not be of any help to you.
Flik: Wait!! Do you really think I can let you do that?? I'm sorry, but...
Teresa: If you interfere, I will take my own life.
Flik: Damn...
Shin: My lady, I will accompany you.
Teresa: Then... Please bear witness to the end of my life.

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Nina: No... I can't let you die!! Lady Teresa, yuo... After you fought so hard for us... We knew the food supplies were low!! And yet, even after that... You didn't wish ill on the soldiers from Muse!! I can't stand by and watch someone with such a kind heart die!!

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So now to do that last dungeon backwards.

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Shin: I'll never let you lay your filthy hands on Lady Teresa.
Teresa: Shin, what do you think you're doing? Please, stop. And... The House of Wisemail is no more, so I am no longer acting mayor. You have no reason to be doing this.
Shin: . . . .
Rowd: I don't know what's going on, and I don't care if they resist... Take them by force!!

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Yep.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:58 am

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Nina: No!! You can't be captured!!
Teresa: But... If I am taken, everyone will...
Nina: You think everyone will be happy!? Lady Teresa, at least believe in us the same way we believed in you, fought for you... Everyone, everyone... When we lost... When we led Greenhill to defeat with our own hands... that battle wounded us inside!! Knowing that, will you still hand yourself over to the Highland Army? Will you really cause the citizens of Greenhill more pain?! You may lose battles... You may even lose your town... But there is something more important than that that you CANNOT lose!! Please... Do not lose that... Lady Teresa...
Greenhill citizenry: Everyone, protect Lady Teresa!! - Protect our mayor! - Yeah... The people of Greenhill took us in... let's return the favor!! Let us not pollute the name of Muse any further! - Lady Teresa, you are the one and only mayor of Greenhill. Please, get yourself to safety!! - Yes... And someday, please, come back to re-take your city!!
Teresa: . . . . .Thank you... I... I'm not worthy...
Greenhill citizenry: What are you talking about? You know we believe in you... Never forget that!
Teresa: I understand... And I promise... I will return to Greenhill... I will once again walk these streets... I will once again breathe this air... And my lips will once again call this town's name! Wait for me... I will return!

So let's get out of here already!

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So we get to run back through the Greenhill forest path... again.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Thad » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:07 pm

Fitcher grew on me. He's something of an inept, whiny weasel, but in cases like this he proves he might just know what he's doing after all.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Brentai » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:25 pm

I'm pretty sure the "half the time" that Richmond's convinced that he's actually an idiot is the half the time he's fooling even Richmond.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:32 pm

He was also brave enough to stick around in Greenhill despite the possibility of lynching. I mean, he was watching his ass -- he yelled from offscreen to start the riot -- but just being present was risky enough. He's not as cowardly or sniveling as everyone seems to think.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:14 pm

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Just before the hideout cabin, Shin volunteers to stay behind and deter the pursuit of Rowd and his company of soldiers. Shin swears his loyalty not to Greenhill or House Wisemail, but to Teresa personally. Which is supposed to be another surprise, I guess? Teresa didn't seem to know.


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Flik: For now... But we can't let our guard down until we get to Vania Castle. These lands are still controlled by Highland.

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Muteiu: Jowy, why are you...
Jowy: Muteiu... I give you this advice as a friend. Relinquish leadership of the KISS Army, and run away.
Wakaba: What does that mean?
Jowy: The victor in this war is already decided. Anything you do now will be in vain... you will only be prolonging the suffering.

He kind of has a point. The State is in shambles politically and the only thing that could possibly unite them is a Tenkai star. The quickest way to end the war would be to not bother uniting Jowstone, since the Highland Army has much better unity and purpose. Unfortunately, that purpose is "burn everything and murder absolutely everyone", so giving up isn't really an option.

Bolgan: Then... you're doing what Luca says?
Jowy: I will not allow Luca to have his way with Highland and the City-State...
Nanami: Th, then...
Jowy: You have no reason to fight... Muteiu...
Muteiu: I can't just run away.
Jowy: . . . . .
Pilika: Ooh... Wah, ooh... Jo...
Jowy: . . . . .
Pilika: Ooh.... Uwaaaaaaaah!!!
Jowy: . . . .Muteiu, you should start running.
Flik: Pursuers... Muteiu, run!!
Nanami: Jowy... What is this, this has to be a lie!! I don't believe it!! Jowy, my Jowy, our Jowy... He'd never follow orders from Luca Blight!! It's a lie!!

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:20 pm

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Jowy: I haven't seen anything.
Rowd: Ohhhh, I see. Hmm, even after one of my men sword he saw them come this way! You may be a commander, but you're still a newcomer. His majesty Luca asked me to keep an eye on you, you know. What do you think he'd say if I gave him this little piece of information?
Jowy: . . . . .
Rowd: Step aside, would you?
Culgan: Wait, Rowd.

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Rowd: Wh... What are you saying...
Culgan: We'd hate to see you make a false report out of jealousy because a former subordinate is now your commanding officer.
Seed: That's right, we're witnesses.
Rowd: Damn...
Culgan: You know, there's still quite a riot going on in Greenhill. Shouldn't you get yourself down there?
Rowd: Damn..! All right, let's go!!

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Seed: Why? We love Highland. It's a wonderful country.
Culgan: We can't stand idly by and let it be destroyed. The only thing Luca Blight will bring about is ruin... and that is not our intention.
Seed: It wouldn't be pleasant to be left standing on scorched earth after the war's over, would it?
Culgan: Jowy Atriedes, Commander of the Fourth Army of the Kingdom of Highland, we pledge our loyalty to you.
Seed: We know what your goal is. Please, use us to that end.
Jowy: Culgan, Seed... Your brave decision will not be in vain. Thank you...

And so Jowy gets two more names on his Tablet. Probably his Chiki and Chimou stars, since Culgan and Seed have an Alen-and-Grenseal kind of thing going on.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:35 pm

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Since we're between scenarios, we're free to wander and recruit for a bit. There's a little bo-peep in Kobold Village who's upset because, yes, she lost her sheep, and doesn't know where to find them.

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This leads to a brief scene where Muteiu escorts her up to the Unicorn Tree in the woods and collects three of her lost lambs wandering around. In true video game form, once of them is hard to find thanks to the 3/4 perspective -- it's behind the tree, in what would be plain sight to Muteiu and his party on the ground.

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So we lease Yuzu some pasture out behind Vania Castle. We have someone to keep our livestock now!

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But wait, there's more! Go back into Unicorn Forest for this last sheep, still wandering about. Notably, this one's a bitch to find... thanks to a coding error. The "you got this thing already" flag for this sheep is at the same memory address for one of the treasure chests near the beginning of the forest path. If you open the chest, the flag is set that this sheep has been collected too, and you can go through this dungeon to recruit Hix and Tengaar well before Yuzu ever shows up.

Having collected the sheep, the chest near the entrace to the forest is mysteriously opened. Oh, Konami.

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Tony starts his garden with a cabbage and a potato plant, and you have to find the rest of his vegetables: three each total of cabbages, potatoes, spinach, and tomatoes. Yuzu starts with one chicken and a sheep, and you have to find the rest of her livestock: three each total of chickens, cows, and pigs, and four sheep.

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This was the "healthy chick" a few people in Lakewest keep talking about. Weird, huh.

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By the time I'm done, Yuzu has pastured a cow named Wellington; three lambs that I call Yeero, Tagine, and Genghis Khan; two hogs dubbed Carnito and Christopher Percy Bacon; and three chickens named Lucy, Amy, and Gwendolyn. (They're egg-laying chickens, so they get to break the naming convention.)

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Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:42 pm

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Teresa: Yes... Thank you. But I'd like to be alone right now. I want time to think.
Shin: Lord Teresa.

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Aw, this ship still sails. And we'd written him off as a dead man! Well, in-game they had. Out of game we know pretty well that a swordsman with a strong link to a required recruit is pretty damn likely to join the army.

Fitcher: We were able to escape in the town's confusion. There are many secret paths in Greenhill.
Teresa: You made it... I'm so glad...
Flik: Fitcher, I'm impressed! Getting Shin out of there was quite an accomplishment.
Fitcher: Oh, it wasn't just Shin...

So guess who runs into the conference room next!

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Nina: But... But, I know now that I simply have to be by your side! It's our destiny... That's why I followed Fitcher. I won't be a nuisance! That reminds me... I made dinner for you! Hurry, hurry! Your soup is getting cold!

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And Flik is dragged away.

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That's... probably for the best.

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:47 pm

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Jowy: Thank you, my lord.
Luca: Well, I'll keep my word as well. Tell me what you want.
Jowy: Yes, my lord. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .I want your sister, Princess Jillia, as my wife.....

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The royal tent goes into a brief uproar.

Luca: Jillia.... my sister??? Hoo Hoo Hoo Ha Ha Ha!!! Why you LITTLE punk!!!!!! You've got balls, I'll say that. Would you like me to remove your head from your shoulders with this blade?

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It's hardly worth noting that Luca's drawn his sword and is totally ready to follow through on his threat.

Jowy: Also...... I've got an idea.
Luca: What is it? Speak up. If I don't like it, I promise I WILL cut off your head.
Jowy: But I shouldn't speak in front of so many, if you take my meaning, my lord.
Luca: Yes, yes. I understand. Come to my quarters later and tell me this 'idea' of yours. You'd better not be wasting my precious time.
Jowy: Of course.

What do you figure the odds are the Luca rejects Jowy's idea and executes him?

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Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:52 pm

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Viktor: Flik's not here yet.
Flik: Sorry. I got held up.
Viktor: Where were you? Busy pursuing that little brat Nina?
Flik: Don't make me sick! It's she who's pursuing me! She stole my bandana and washed it! It took me all morning to find it!!!
Viktor: Ha ha ha ha ha! It's like you have a wife already!
Flik: You'll pay for that, Viktor. But more importantly, Shu, what's this meeting about?
Shu: Are you ready, Lord Muteiu? Wel then, I'll begin. Of the 5 Cities and 1 Knightdom in the State, South Window has been destroyed, and Muse and Greenhill are under enemy control. Somehow we've managed to protect Two River, but Tinto is still closed to us. I think we should forge a bond with the only alliance member left, the Knightdom of Matilda. Their army is as strong as Muse's, and if we ally with them, we'll be able to attack the enemy from two fronts. Do you agree, Lord Muteiu?

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Since Greenhill is still occupied, we can't just march up our army as it is as a military escort. So we've got to sneak into Matilda in a small group... say, six or fewer people. So we'll vote on those!

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby Thad » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:14 pm

nosimpleway wrote:Jowy: Yes, my lord. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .I want your sister, Princess Jillia, as my wife.....


so those of you who got a Delita vibe might just be on to something...

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Re: Let's Play Suikoden 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby nosimpleway » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:29 pm

Let's see here...

Name: Emilia
Age: 29
From: Greenhill City
Position: Strategist's Retinue
Note: None
  • In war, the unit Emilia is in will be able to see their attack percentage before they attack.
  • She's a smart lady all right. But in the love department, she's still illiterate. That's why she reads so many romance novels.
  • The newest bestseller is "For Love of the Empire", by Millich the Flower General.

Emilia can join army battles, but not tactical ones. Her Investigate ability allows you to see the likelihood of any given attack her unit is in doing or receiving damage. Since she gives no attack or defense bonuses, and the chances of damage usually top out in low double-digit percentages, you're generally better off boosting the likelihood of dealing or negating damage rather than analyzing chances of success.

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Name: Yuzu
Age: 10
From: Forest Village, Muse Principality
Position: Rearguard
Note: None
  • That sheep that travels with her is named Taro. That one sheep alone is not
    for eating.
  • When I took a peek, I saw her branding names on her animals. One of 'em said 'hamburger', one said 'pork cutlets', and another said 'Ghengis Khan'....
  • As soon as I got close to that sheep of hers, 'Taro', she yelled at me: 'That
    one's not for eating! Back off!' I couldn't believe my ears.

And you thought I was just being cruel about the animals' fates.

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Name: Teresa
Age: 27
From: Greenhill City
Position: General
Note: None
  • After her fathers Alec's death, the citizens wanted her to be mayor right then, but she was against it, so they created the position 'acting mayor' for her.
  • It was hard for her being the mayor's daughter in school. Everybody talking about her, staring at her.... I know how she musta felt.
  • Everyone knows that she's really in love with Shin, but they're both so damned stubborn.

Teresa runs an archery unit with 5 attack and 6 defense. And if she's up against other archery or magic units who can match her attack range, her Bombard ability lets her make an attack from even further away than archers normally reach. But at attack power 5, it's hard to get her up to a point where Bombard does any reliable damage...

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Name: Hix
Age: 20
From: Warrior's Village, Toran Republic
Position: Infantry Soldier
Note: Trying to become a warrior
  • He left Warrior's Village to complete his journey of manhood, but it looks like he's not really too interested in becoming a warrior.
  • Tengaar sure pushes him around a lot. But for all that they're still a well-balanced couple.
  • Hix's sword is named Tengaar. It's an old custom in Warrior's Village to name your sword after the most important thing in your life.

His is still decidedly average, but he's still better overall than most of the short-ranged swordsman we've recruited already. What makes him potentially better than Rikumaru, Hanna, or Freedy is the unique Exertion rune engraved onto his sword: he starts the battle with a 20% boost to his attack power, and gets another 20% each round until he's putting 220% into the fight on round six. It's the rune that's powerful and not its wielder, but it's stuck there. Oh well.

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Name: Tengaar
Age: 18
From: Warrior's Village, Toran Village
Position: Infantry Soldier
Note: Traveling with Hix
  • She's the daughter of the village chief of Warrior's Village. She and Hix have known each other since they were kids and now they're a couple. Also, it looks like she's had a run-in with Neclord in the past.
  • Well, she's a cute girl, but she worries too much. She thinks she's doing everything for Hix's sake.
  • After Hix's journey is over, she wants to go back to Warrior's Village and get married right away.

As before, Tengaar's a decent magician whose main strength is that long-ranged throwing dagger she uses, leaving her in a safer position in a fight than, say, Luc. She's got better overall stat growth than Rina, too. Tengaar starts with an Earth Rune, and gets a second slot ideally for a Wind or Fire rune at level 32.
Tengaar and Hix have a Unite attack, but they need to work on their coordination a little. Tengaar charges up some magic while Hix dives toward the enemy for a sword slash... and Tengaar catches Hix in the blast. This does double combined damage to one enemy, but Hix gets hurt too.
In a party with Millie and Meg, Tengaar can Unite with those two for the Pretty Girl attack. It does half combined damage to all enemies, but the damage is the sum of a bad luck-based fighter, another bad luck-based fighter, and a pure magician. So it's still not very good.

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Name: Shin
Age: 27
From: The Southlands
Position: Archer Captain
Note: Teresa's Bodyguard
  • Sorry, I couldn't find out much. I thought he was sleeping, but all of a sudden he woke up and put his sword up to my throat. Scared the livin' crap outta me...
  • I know he's from the south, but I can't find out any more details. You know how that guy is....

Shin is a master swordsman, with top-tier growth in Technique and -- a little surprisingly -- Luck. He pretty well outshines most the other dedicated short-ranged fighters we have available to date, except maybe Viktor (and discounting frontline fighters who are more defensive in nature like Oulan, Humphrey, or Gadget, since their area of expertise is different). His only rune slot is taken by his unique Spider Slay rune, which allows him to triple his damage output once per battle. But even after that's expended, he can still crank critical hits.

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Name: Nina
Age: 16
From: Greenhill City
Position: Strategist's retinue
Note: None
  • With the way she's been following Flik around, she could teach me a thing or two about investigation techniques.
  • She's a stubborn little fireplug all right. Ain't nothing gonna stand in her way.
  • She knows that Flik sometimes goes up on the roof at night. Looks like she's trying to get a chance to be alone with him.

Nina's pretty unremarkable, as a sorta-kinda gish who uses her book belt as a flail and decent affinity with Fire runes. Her only noteworthy aspect is her Unite with Flik, where she tries so hard to impress her sempai that she needs his help to stop her spinning attack... which only endears him to her more, and frustrates Flik further. It does two and a half times their combined damage, unbalances Nina... and has a 30% chance to leave Nina with Toasty status. Oh my.

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Name: Mekumeku
Age: 6
From: Greenhill Forest
Position: Special Forces
Note: None
  • He jokes around a lot, but he's a hard worker.

Yeah, I got a couple more squirrels during some downtime. Mekumeku wears a green cloak, and has slightly higher Luck than other squirrels.

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Name: Mikumiku
Age: 6
From: Greenhill Forest
Position: Special Forces
Note: None
  • A tribute to her race. From what I can tell, she's kind and curious.

Being the token girl of the Five Squirrel Squad, Mikumiku wears a pink cape and is faster than the rest. That's Ma-Mi-Me-Mo, so there's only one squirrel left before we've constructed our full line of Japanese syllablery.

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